Delgado Posted January 23 Delgado Posted January 23 Hey guys! Let’s dive into this—are solvers taking the heart out of poker? No doubt they’ve raised the level of strategy, but it feels like the game’s becoming more mechanical. It’s all about following charts these days, with players relying more on data than their instincts. What’s your take on this? Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjun Posted January 23 Arjun Posted January 23 I see your point, but solvers are just tools. They don’t play the game for you—they teach you the best baseline. The real art is knowing when to deviate. If you’re blindly following solver outputs, you’re beatable. The edge comes from balancing GTO with exploiting your opponents. Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-44 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aSan1387 Posted January 23 aSan1387 Posted January 23 Exactly. Solvers aren’t killing the art 💯 they’re raising the bar. Back in the day, people thought intuition was everything. Now we’ve got data to back up good decisions. If anything, it’s making poker even deeper. But yeah, the guys who just regurgitate GTO ranges without reading the table? Easy pickings😈😈😈 Edited January 23 by aSan1387 Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-49 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priya Nair Posted January 23 Priya Nair Posted January 23 I’ll admit, I hate how solver-heavy online games have become 😤. Everyone’s running like six HUDs and memorizing ranges 🤖📊. In live poker, though, it’s a whole different game you can’t rely on a solver to read someone’s body language or catch a tell 👀💬. That’s where the art of poker still thrives ✨🎨. Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-54 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Carter Posted January 23 Alex Carter Posted January 23 Fair, but doesn’t it feel like live players are at a disadvantage now? The solver grinders who jump into live games already have their ranges down cold. Meanwhile, live players are still making “feel” plays that get crushed against optimal strategies💔 Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-55 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aSan1387 Posted January 23 aSan1387 Posted January 23 True, but live games are softer because most people don’t care about GTO 🤷♂️. They’re just there to gamble, have fun 🎉, and play hands they “like” 🤪. That’s where exploitative play shines 🌟. If you know GTO and how to exploit those deviations, you’re basically printing money 💵 in live games! Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-61 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjun Posted January 23 Arjun Posted January 23 Exactly. Solvers aren’t the end-all-be-all; they’re a foundation. Once you know the baseline, you can adjust for your player pool. Against regs, stick to GTO. Against recs, punish their mistakes. It’s about flexibility, not rigidity Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-62 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priya Nair Posted January 23 Priya Nair Posted January 23 But don’t you miss the old days? When poker was about personality—making crazy bluffs, trapping with monsters, tilting people into oblivion? Feels like solvers have made everything too sterile Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-63 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delgado Posted January 23 Delgado Posted January 23 I get that, but isn’t the beauty of poker its evolution? Back in the day, people thought 3-betting light was revolutionary. Now it’s standard. Solvers are just the next step in the game’s growth. The art isn’t dead—it’s just adapting Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-67 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aSan1387 Posted January 23 aSan1387 Posted January 23 Look at the top pros—they’re not solver robots 🤖. Guys like Phil Ivey, Linus Loeliger, or Fedor Holz 🔥 use solvers, sure, but they crush because they know how to read people 👀, adapt to dynamics 🔄, and dominate the meta 🎯. That’s the real art of the game 🎨♠️ Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-69 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Steward Posted April 7 A. Steward Posted April 7 On 1/23/2025 at 6:12 PM, Delgado said: Hey guys! Let’s dive into this—are solvers taking the heart out of poker? No doubt they’ve raised the level of strategy, but it feels like the game’s becoming more mechanical. It’s all about following charts these days, with players relying more on data than their instincts. What’s your take on this? Yeah, kinda feels like everyone is playing the same now Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-1052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Times flys Posted April 7 Times flys Posted April 7 Solvers made the game tougher for sure Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-1053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ri Soimon Posted April 7 Ri Soimon Posted April 7 4 minutes ago, Times flys said: Solvers made the game tougher for sure 💯 Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-1054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted April 7 ... Posted April 7 19 minutes ago, Times flys said: Solvers made the game tougher for sure if u are not learn solver lines u will lose Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-1055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Steward Posted April 7 A. Steward Posted April 7 Yes, that’s just where the game is now. Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-1056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambler_pro Posted April 21 Gambler_pro Posted April 21 On 1/23/2025 at 6:12 PM, Delgado said: Hey guys! Let’s dive into this—are solvers taking the heart out of poker? No doubt they’ve raised the level of strategy, but it feels like the game’s becoming more mechanical. It’s all about following charts these days, with players relying more on data than their instincts. What’s your take on this? Yeah, kinda feels like the soul s gone 🤐 Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-1307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaitu Posted April 22 Chaitu Posted April 22 Everyone plays the same way Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-1340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveria Posted April 22 loveria Posted April 22 9 minutes ago, Chaitu said: Everyone plays the same way True but it also made the game harder Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-1341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arqum Posted April 22 Arqum Posted April 22 33 minutes ago, loveria said: True but it also made the game harder which is fun in its own way Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-1342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arqum Posted April 22 Arqum Posted April 22 On 4/7/2025 at 11:20 AM, Times flys said: Solvers made the game tougher for sure they just made it less random Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-1343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fran Posted April 22 fran Posted April 22 Live games are still fun! Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-1350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonang Posted April 22 Tonang Posted April 22 1 minute ago, fran said: Live games are still fun! That's right brother Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-1351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Léo Posted June 2 Léo Posted June 2 On 1/23/2025 at 6:12 PM, Delgado said: Hey guys! Let’s dive into this—are solvers taking the heart out of poker? No doubt they’ve raised the level of strategy, but it feels like the game’s becoming more mechanical. It’s all about following charts these days, with players relying more on data than their instincts. What’s your take on this? Yeah man, it’s kinda sad Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-2321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skater Posted June 2 Skater Posted June 2 Just now, Léo said: Yeah man, it’s kinda sad everyone’s a “GTO expert” now. Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-2322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted June 2 ... Posted June 2 Just now, Skater said: everyone’s a “GTO expert” now. Right 😁 Link to comment https://forum.1wozdk.life/topic/20-are-solvers-killing-the-art-of-poker/#findComment-2323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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